Western Standard liveblogs the 2nd US Presidential Debate
- Everyone excited for McCain vs Obama?! I must admit that I'm not, I found the last one to be boring and predictable. Maybe its because I spend way too much time following this stuff, but unlike the Canadian debates, I didn't learn a single new thing about the policies or attitudes of either candidate.by Robert Jago at 10/7/2008 10:54:36 PM
- Kerry Howley's got a good grasp on what to expect:
1. Foreigner Blaming
2. Independence Mongering
3. Bloody Accessory-Wavingby Kalim Kassam at 10/7/2008 10:56:17 PM - And it begins. Tom Brokaw looks classy but... *where's his American flag lapel pin?*by Peter Jaworski at 10/8/2008 1:02:00 AM
- Tom Brokaw... does he love America, or what?by Peter Jaworski at 10/8/2008 1:02:30 AM
- he loves pocket squaresby Kalim Kassam at 10/8/2008 1:02:42 AM
- John McCain walks in and, it looks like he *doesn't have an American flag lapel pin either!* (Shock and horror).by Peter Jaworski at 10/8/2008 1:03:14 AM
- Obama, meanwhile, proudly wears the American flag pin. He clearly loves America. But we have no way of knowing whether or not John McCain loves America.by Peter Jaworski at 10/8/2008 1:03:43 AM
- McCain just looks awkward, especially the way he's sitting in his chairby Kalim Kassam at 10/8/2008 1:03:50 AM
- First question is about economics: How do the "rest of us" get a "bailout"?by Peter Jaworski at 10/8/2008 1:04:56 AM
- (Something like that)by Peter Jaworski at 10/8/2008 1:05:02 AM
- Obama: He thinks the bailout might work, on the condition that there's "strong oversight" and that CEOs don't get "golden parachutes"by Peter Jaworski at 10/8/2008 1:05:33 AM
- Apparently, AIG took a nice vacation after they got a bailout. Obama thinks those folks should be fired.by Peter Jaworski at 10/8/2008 1:05:56 AM
- Obama: The bailout package 'treats taxpayers as investors". So I guess everyone will be issued their shares soon, so they can benefit from the fabulous investments that the private market passed up on.by Kalim Kassam at 10/8/2008 1:06:23 AM
- McCain: "Americans are upset, angry and a little fearful. And it's our job to fix this"by Peter Jaworski at 10/8/2008 1:06:46 AM
- No, John, it's your job to stay the hell out of the economy.by Peter Jaworski at 10/8/2008 1:06:58 AM
- Then you sure as hell don't want the Democrats in power.by marcus at 10/8/2008 1:07:31 AM
- McCain: "We've got to do something about home values"by Peter Jaworski at 10/8/2008 1:07:32 AM
- John McCain is already clamouring for more government action and bailouts for homesby Peter Jaworski at 10/8/2008 1:07:51 AM
- "Until we stabilize home values in America, we're never going to turn around and..." (fix the economy)by Peter Jaworski at 10/8/2008 1:08:11 AM
- Home values are the new climate change - they have to stay the same way forever.by Robert Jago at 10/8/2008 1:08:13 AM
- Oh. "It's not Obama's plan, and it's not Bush's plan, but it's my plan"by Peter Jaworski at 10/8/2008 1:08:26 AM
- McCain--distancing himself from Bush alreadyby Peter Jaworski at 10/8/2008 1:08:37 AM
- John McCain likes Meg Whitman. She was CEO of eBay.by Peter Jaworski at 10/8/2008 1:09:31 AM
- how long was that to hear the ebay thing? 9 minutes? new record.by Robert Jago at 10/8/2008 1:09:41 AM
- Yikes. eBay shed a bunch of jobs today. That's a bad reference...by Peter Jaworski at 10/8/2008 1:09:49 AM
- Obama bringing up class warfare, and needing the state to fix it.by Chris Reid at 10/8/2008 1:10:41 AM
- Obama: Wages and incomes have flatlined and it's getting harder and harder to save. Obama wants to cut taxes for middle income Americansby Peter Jaworski at 10/8/2008 1:11:12 AM
- Obama agrees with McCain: inflated housing prices CANNOT fallby Kalim Kassam at 10/8/2008 1:11:15 AM
- Oliver Clark has a question. "In this bailout package I'm wondering, what it is that will help these people out" (the folks who are losing the value of their homes)by Peter Jaworski at 10/8/2008 1:11:58 AM
- McCain's hyping his trip back to Washingtonby Robert Jago at 10/8/2008 1:12:17 AM
- McCain insists it's a "rescue plan" and not a "bailout." No, McCain, it's a bailout. Call things by their proper names, please.by Peter Jaworski at 10/8/2008 1:12:27 AM
- McCain answers by explaining that it wasn't a bailout packager but a *rescue* package. OK, that answers the question.by Kalim Kassam at 10/8/2008 1:12:32 AM
- He should bring up that Fannie Mae was a big contributor to Democratic candidatesby Chris Reid at 10/8/2008 1:12:48 AM
- Ha ha, Kalim. I'm a faster typer.by Peter Jaworski at 10/8/2008 1:12:54 AM
- YES! He brought it up!by Chris Reid at 10/8/2008 1:13:17 AM
- way to go Chris. You can read minds!by marcus at 10/8/2008 1:13:28 AM
- There you are, Chris. "Senator Obama was the second highest recipient of contributions from Fannie May and Freddie Mac in history. In history."by Peter Jaworski at 10/8/2008 1:13:36 AM
- I got John McCain's secret talking points earlier ;-)by Chris Reid at 10/8/2008 1:14:11 AM
- Obama: Some small businesses can't get loans, and then they can't make payroll...by Peter Jaworski at 10/8/2008 1:14:19 AM
- Or you're feeding them to himby Kalim Kassam at 10/8/2008 1:14:21 AM
- Is Obama busy defending giving out crappy loans?by Peter Jaworski at 10/8/2008 1:14:28 AM
- if you can't get a loan, you have to lay people off? what rubbishby Robert Jago at 10/8/2008 1:14:32 AM
- if you need loans to make payroll you shouldn't be in businessby Robert Jago at 10/8/2008 1:14:46 AM
- "I've got to correct some of Senator McCain's history. Not surprisingly." (Snap)by Peter Jaworski at 10/8/2008 1:14:46 AM
- @Robert: Agreed.by Peter Jaworski at 10/8/2008 1:15:01 AM
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