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Keynote with Michael Geist @ mesh08

Started at @ 5/21/2008 2:40:00 PM
Last Post @ 5/21/2008 4:05:45 PM
  • The Fair(y) Use Tale is essentially a mashup of cute cat theory and advocacy. Bring the issue TO the cute cat crowd. Harder to block the cute cat websites, than advocacy sites
    by Jonathan Keebler (Live) at 5/21/2008 3:33:40 PM
  • This is the new normal
    by Jonathan Keebler (Live) at 5/21/2008 3:33:41 PM
  • In our hands
    by Jonathan Keebler (Live) at 5/21/2008 3:34:27 PM
  • Web 2.0 was created to allow people to share pictures of cute cats
    by MDM at 5/21/2008 3:34:28 PM
  • (Moving to Q&A)
    by Jonathan Keebler (Live) at 5/21/2008 3:34:35 PM
  • Question: Digital advocacy being overwrought? Just putting together a mob, not an informed/intelligent/serious group of ppl? Tourists through the issue?
    by Jonathan Keebler (Live) at 5/21/2008 3:35:55 PM
  • Michael: The quality is underrated. There's a spectrum of ppl and how informed they are.
    by Jonathan Keebler (Live) at 5/21/2008 3:36:28 PM
  • e.g. Copyright affects all 40,000 ppl, why shouldn't they be involved? The laws equally affect them. We should celebrate that they can finally speak out.
    by Jonathan Keebler (Live) at 5/21/2008 3:37:12 PM
  • Question: Who are the real experts? Who should I be listening to?
    by Jonathan Keebler (Live) at 5/21/2008 3:38:11 PM
  • Michael: Traditionally limited the number of stakeholders (who would represent the greater perspective). Now, ppl can participate much more directly.
    by Jonathan Keebler (Live) at 5/21/2008 3:39:10 PM
  • by MDM at 5/21/2008 3:39:23 PM
  • Question: Are they astute enough? Are they paying attention?
    by Jonathan Keebler (Live) at 5/21/2008 3:40:16 PM
  • Michael: Gov't = increasingly about politics not policy -> frustration on all sides (based on conversations he has had). Policy ideas junked by political asperations.
    by Jonathan Keebler (Live) at 5/21/2008 3:41:12 PM
  • Individual voices = can have more impact now
    by Jonathan Keebler (Live) at 5/21/2008 3:43:50 PM
  • Moderator
    You can put together and audience of millions but ultimately will not produce the desired result.
    by MDM at 5/21/2008 3:43:58 PM
  • Moderator: We don't have the intensity of blogging (politically) that they have in the US?
    by Jonathan Keebler (Live) at 5/21/2008 3:45:07 PM
  • Michael: Are seeing innovative examples (in Canada) e.g. office of privacy of Canada. Perhaps doing that more on FB.
    by Jonathan Keebler (Live) at 5/21/2008 3:45:41 PM
  • Moderator: Had a meeting and a bunch of 20 somethings showed up; Why is copyright cool?
    by MDM at 5/21/2008 3:46:57 PM
  • Michael: Copyright has a direct impact on our daily lives e.g. tools to unlock iPhone so we can use them in Canada. Ppl keep bumping up against this copyright issue.
    by Jonathan Keebler (Live) at 5/21/2008 3:47:02 PM
  • Does it even matter? They can make all the laws in the world but they can't stop the flow of ones and zeros.
    by MDM at 5/21/2008 3:49:04 PM
  • Moderator: Is speed of adoption of Copyright law picking up? Trying to anticipate?
    by Jonathan Keebler (Live) at 5/21/2008 3:50:39 PM
  • Michael: DRM, etc. in US hasn't worked = unintended consequences. We shouldn't adopt solutions that hinder creativity.
    by Jonathan Keebler (Live) at 5/21/2008 3:50:57 PM
  • Moderator:
    Digital Advocacy: Government can em-peed. Is that true?
    by MDM at 5/21/2008 3:52:18 PM
  • Michael: Some of capabilities impeeded by our ISPs in Canada, not the gov't. That's why net neutrality is so important. Canada gov't should help make sure our tools are not impeeded.
    by Jonathan Keebler (Live) at 5/21/2008 3:52:58 PM
  • by MDM at 5/21/2008 3:53:30 PM
  • Network neutrality (equivalently net neutrality, Internet neutrality or simply NN) is a principle that is applied to residential broadband networks, and potentially to all networks. A neutral broadband network is one that is free of restrictions on the kinds of equipment that may be attached, on the modes of communication allowed, which does not restrict content, sites or platforms, and where communication is not unreasonably degraded by other communication streams
    by MDM at 5/21/2008 3:54:18 PM
  • Question: Politics 2.0? Reward politicians for being more open with web? e.g. Turner thrown out of Conservative party
    by Jonathan Keebler (Live) at 5/21/2008 3:55:32 PM
  • by Guinevere Orvis at 5/21/2008 3:56:12 PM
  • by MDM at 5/21/2008 3:56:21 PM
  • Michael: Ppl in his own riding will show how they respond to what he did when they next vote.
    by Jonathan Keebler (Live) at 5/21/2008 3:56:22 PM
  • Question from the crowd touches on Carrotmob. If you haven't heard about what they've done, check out the video embedded below :)
    by Guinevere Orvis at 5/21/2008 3:56:30 PM
  • Obama success = engage ppl who have not been politically active before because politicians haven't engaged them on the issues that matter to them
    by Jonathan Keebler (Live) at 5/21/2008 3:57:53 PM
  • Question: Copyright gets more play than (e.g.) ppl being put in prison? More important issues?
    by Jonathan Keebler (Live) at 5/21/2008 3:58:21 PM
  • by MDM at 5/21/2008 3:58:35 PM
  • Michael: There is a bit of self-selection by ppl online.
    by Jonathan Keebler (Live) at 5/21/2008 3:58:44 PM
  • Question: Advise for ppl to protect themselves against getting sued by linking to somewhere?
    by Jonathan Keebler (Live) at 5/21/2008 4:00:26 PM
  • Michael: There is that prospect in Canada. Try to be factual, not to defame anybody. The more effective you are, the more you are a potential target. Michael is still being sued.
    by Jonathan Keebler (Live) at 5/21/2008 4:00:37 PM
  • by MDM at 5/21/2008 4:01:36 PM
  • Orphan works: pretty strong disincentive to use works due to legal damage legislation
    by Jonathan Keebler (Live) at 5/21/2008 4:02:18 PM
  • by MDM at 5/21/2008 4:03:02 PM
  • Question: FB = join groups to show your friends you effective leanings. How get them to be more effective?
    by Jonathan Keebler (Live) at 5/21/2008 4:04:08 PM
  • Michael: What's the value? It's hard to get those ppl more engaged, but it's a good starting point to expose them to the issue. If just 1 in 10 take action, you can probably meet your goal.
    by Jonathan Keebler (Live) at 5/21/2008 4:04:19 PM
  • END/applause
    by Jonathan Keebler (Live) at 5/21/2008 4:05:45 PM
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